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Что-то есть в этих разговорах такое волшебное... чистое... лишенное еще всяких домыслов и предубеждений.
Интервью №1 - Бенедикт Камбербетч с ведущими Чарли Стейт и Кейт Сильвертон в утренней программе "Завтрак" на BBC1 22 июля 2010 (за 3 дня до премьеры первого сезона "Шерлока")
Silverton: Okay, welcome back. So, it seems fitting to just drop a few clues about our final guest. He's an actor who's been in Small Island, Atonement, Tipping the Velvet and numerous theatre productions, and he's here to talk about his latest role as a very perceptive investigator, who lives at the sort of London address that comes up in pub quizzes.
Stayt: Yes, his partner in crime solving is Dr John Watson, and in the original stories, he didn't once say, "elementary". Ah, it's pretty obvious who it is, isn't it? The answer is Benedict Cumberbatch, who's here to tell us about all the new BBC One adaptation of the Sherlock Holmes stories. Good morning.
Cumberbatch: Good morning.
Stayt: We were talking about this sort of James Bond mantle...
Cumberbatch: Mmm.
Stayt: ...and taking on the idea of writing a James Bond story. The idea of playing Sherlock Holmes, as an actor, is a pretty big one, I think.
Cumberbatch: Yeah, I mean, they're both very daunting, iconic characters to take on, and interestingly, there's a parallel with Bond. Holmes is someone who hasn't been reinvented in the 21 st century until now, so, rather like Fleming's original novel set in that period, why not continue the franchise in a modern setting? And he's always been a modern man, Sherlock, so the idea of him being...
Silverton: How... What do you mean?
Cumberbatch: Well, I think he's always been at the forefront of forensic science. He was, um, somebody who was investigating the idea of fingerprints and footprints, and wrote very long, probably very boring monographs on different types of ash, cigarettes and cigar ash, to detect where the cigar and cigarette may be bought from, and therefore lead to an identity of whoever's left the ash behind. So, the idea that he can exist in the 21st century, I think, sits quite neatly. It's a difficult one, I think, for traditionalists to swallow because it could be very naff.
Silverton: And I've been saying... Yes. And I can imagine people saying you just can't touch Sherlock Holmes, you know, put it in the modern day, it just won't work.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Silverton: And I actually confess, I was one of those last night who sat down to watch it...
Cumberbatch: Me too, before I read the scripts.
Silverton: Were you?
Cumberbatch (laughs): Yeah, completely.
Silverton: Were you thinking, "Gosh, I can't do this."
Cumberbatch: Oh, completely, I just... It's very easy, I think, to just... to try and, uh, reinvigorate something with a very tacked-on idea of modernity, whether it just be multimedia technology or a sort of tongue-in-cheek reference to something that's now, I don't know, taken on a new guise, but...
Silverton: Well, let's take a look and give people a sense of what we're talking about.
Cumberbatch: Okay, yeah. Let's talk about that.
Silverton: This is your very first meeting with, uh... with Watson.
Cumberbatch: Okay, okay.
Sherlock: I play the violin when I’m thinking. Sometimes I don’t talk for days on end. Would that bother you? Potential flatmates should know the worst about each other.
John: Oh, you ... you told him about me?
Mike Stamford: Not a word.
John: Then who said anything about flatmates?
Sherlock: I did. Told Mike this morning that I must be a difficult man to find a flatmate for. Now here he is just after lunch with an old friend, clearly just home from military service in Afghanistan. Wasn’t that difficult a leap.
John: How did you know about Afghanistan?
Sherlock: Got my eye on a nice little place in central London. Together we ought to be able to afford it. We’ll meet there tomorrow evening; seven o’clock. Sorry – gotta dash. I think I left my riding crop in the mortuary.
John: Is that it?
Sherlock: Is that what?
John: We’ve only just met and we’re gonna go and look at a flat?
Sherlock: Problem?
John: We don’t know a thing about each other; I don’t know where we’re meeting; I don’t even know your name.
Sherlock: I know you’re an Army doctor and you’ve been invalided home from Afghanistan. I know you’ve got a brother who’s worried about you but you won’t go to him for help because you don’t approve of him – possibly because he’s an alcoholic; more likely because he recently walked out on his wife. And I know that your therapist thinks your limp’s psychosomatic – quite correctly, I’m afraid. That’s enough to be going on with, don’t you think?
Sherlock: The name’s Sherlock Holmes and the address is two two one B Baker Street. Afternoon.
Mike Stamford: Yeah. He’s always like that.
Stayt: That is, uh... And we won't go into too much detail, but you're pretty much right, aren't you? I mean, he is annoyingly...
Cumberbatch: Yes... Irritatingly... But, I mean, he is fallible. He is fallible. It's not a complete science deduction. It is, pretty much, in his hands, but... There are red herrings. There are dead ends. But the brilliant thing he still can do, in the 21 st century, with all the multimedia and forensic science he has at his availability... At his availability! At his hands, at his beck and call... Is to turn that into a coherent narrative, to understand who, why, what, when, and he does that so fantastically brilliantly, and sometimes he gets it wrong, but...
Silverton: And it's an illustration of how...If just by being, purely by being observant, that you can pick up on...
Cumberbatch: He's great.
Silverton: If just by being, purely by being observant, that you can pick up on...
Cumberbatch: Yes, it's an achievable... It's an achievable power. It's not a superpower. It's...
Silverton: It's... It struck me as sort of a cross between, and we mentioned forensic science, sort of a CSI, it's got a really pacey feel...
Cumberbatch: Mmm. Yeah.
Silverton: The scripting's very fast and very... There's a lot of wit in there.
Cumberbatch: Yes, it's quite...
Silverton: It's kind of Like an adult Doctor Who. But then, some of the writers have actually also written for Doctor Who.
Cumberbatch: Well, Steve and Mark... Both Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss do both write for Doctor Who, but, um... I don't think there's that much of a crossover, but stylistically, you have a maverick. You have an outsider.
Silverton: Yeah.
Cumberbatch: You have someone who's voluble, who's incredibly smart and fast-thinking, and adept at thinking on his feet, and someone who leaps into action and leaves people going, "Wait! Hang on!" And, you know, catching up like the audience does, but... I think what's smart about this as well is that there are moments, without spoiling too much, where the audience is let into the thinking of Holmes, which is quite a new dynamic, I think, in any TV drama. You have these moments not just with sort of, screen technology, which is often a cutaway to a phone or a computer where the words actually appear rather than actually being on the screen.
Stayt: Now that's worth explaining, isn't it, because I thought that was a very...
Silverton: Yes.
Stayt: ... I've not seen it before.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Stayt: Just to explain, so, I think filmmakers have been struggling with the idea of, how do you make texting interesting...
Cumberbatch: Yeah, yeah. ...
Stayt: ... in a visual sense. What you do in this film, is that you... You're receiving the texts and they appear as subtitles.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Stayt: And so you know what the actor's looking at.
Cumberbatch: Exactly, exactly.
Stayt: It's so simple. I don't know why...
Cumberbatch: And yet very, very, very effective. I know, I know. I think maybe because people think it's some kind of intrusion on the actual physical space of what the camera's looking at, but I... You know, a word or two floating up, it's brilliant. It just works.
Stayt: It comes like a thought bubble, really.
Silverton: Yeah.
Cumberbatch: Yes, it does a bit.
Silverton: You've also got a lovely landlady that I think we should introduce very quickly, if we've got time.
Cumberbatch: Oh, please. The lovely Una Stubbs.
Silverton: The landlady at 221 B Baker Street, played by Una Stubbs. And we get to see what a mess you live in. (Cumberbatch laughs)
John: Well, this could be very nice. Very nice indeed.
Sherlock: Yes. Yes, I think so. My thoughts precisely. So I went straight ahead and moved in.
John: Soon as we get all this rubbish cleaned out... Oh. So this is all ...
Sherlock: Well, obviously I can, um, straighten things up a bit.
John: That’s a skull.
Sherlock: Friend of mine. When I say ‘friend’ ...
Mrs. Hudson: What do you think, then, Doctor Watson? There’s another bedroom upstairs if you’ll be needing two bedrooms.
John: Of course we’ll be needing two.
Mrs. Hudson: Oh, don’t worry; there’s all sorts round here. Mrs Turner next door’s got married ones. Oh, Sherlock. The mess you’ve made.
Stayt: I bet it was hard to keep a straight face filming that, wasn't it? (Silverton and Cumberbatch laugh)
Cumberbatch: This stuff is fantastic. Holmes's default mode is quite a straight face. It's rare that he smiles without intent. But yeah, no, she's wonderful. She's just delightful. She's very, very funny.
Stayt: Like I was saying that... Sorry, you were saying a second ago about how many actors have taken on the role of Sherlock. You were saying that it was... Is it 200?
Cumberbatch: It's a huge number. If you take into the international contingent as well, it's... I think it is well into the 200s. I think it's possibly... This might be in the Guinness Book of Records, I'm not sure, and I should know this, playing a fact-meister that Holmes is. Um, I think he is the most-played literary fictional character. Um, I mean for me, one of the scariest things, as far as inheriting any of that and playing such an iconic role was thinking about Rathbone and Brett. To me, they are the two supreme English Holmes and always will be. So that was yet another appeal with escaping that shadow slightly, because of not having a deerstalker, a bowler hat, or a cape or pipe in sight, that there was... We were moving out of the Victorian smog of it into something which I could have some kind of a new identity with.
Silverton: Mmm.
Cumberbatch: Um, and also it's younger and also it's when they first meet and that's very rarely been done.
Silverton: Yes.
Cumberbatch: And it's a great place to start the story, where it originally started, in Study in Scarlet.
Silverton: That's fantastic.
Cumberbatch: Ours is called "A Study in Pink."
Silverton: Well...
Stayt: You get a scarf and a long coat.
Cumberbatch: Oh yes, you have to come up with some kind of a silhouette.
Silverton: There's some things that still remain. Yeah. It's so lovely to see you. Thank you so much...
Cumberbatch: It's an absolute pleasure.
Stayt: I know you're a little bit dicky on the throat.
Cumberbatch: A little bit dicky on the throat, yeah.
Stayt: Thank you.
Silverton: So one not to miss, then. Sherlock on BBC One, 9:00 on Sunday night.
Что-то есть в этих разговорах такое волшебное... чистое... лишенное еще всяких домыслов и предубеждений.
Интервью №1 - Бенедикт Камбербетч с ведущими Чарли Стейт и Кейт Сильвертон в утренней программе "Завтрак" на BBC1 22 июля 2010 (за 3 дня до премьеры первого сезона "Шерлока")
Silverton: Okay, welcome back. So, it seems fitting to just drop a few clues about our final guest. He's an actor who's been in Small Island, Atonement, Tipping the Velvet and numerous theatre productions, and he's here to talk about his latest role as a very perceptive investigator, who lives at the sort of London address that comes up in pub quizzes.
Stayt: Yes, his partner in crime solving is Dr John Watson, and in the original stories, he didn't once say, "elementary". Ah, it's pretty obvious who it is, isn't it? The answer is Benedict Cumberbatch, who's here to tell us about all the new BBC One adaptation of the Sherlock Holmes stories. Good morning.
Cumberbatch: Good morning.
Stayt: We were talking about this sort of James Bond mantle...
Cumberbatch: Mmm.
Stayt: ...and taking on the idea of writing a James Bond story. The idea of playing Sherlock Holmes, as an actor, is a pretty big one, I think.
Cumberbatch: Yeah, I mean, they're both very daunting, iconic characters to take on, and interestingly, there's a parallel with Bond. Holmes is someone who hasn't been reinvented in the 21 st century until now, so, rather like Fleming's original novel set in that period, why not continue the franchise in a modern setting? And he's always been a modern man, Sherlock, so the idea of him being...
Silverton: How... What do you mean?
Cumberbatch: Well, I think he's always been at the forefront of forensic science. He was, um, somebody who was investigating the idea of fingerprints and footprints, and wrote very long, probably very boring monographs on different types of ash, cigarettes and cigar ash, to detect where the cigar and cigarette may be bought from, and therefore lead to an identity of whoever's left the ash behind. So, the idea that he can exist in the 21st century, I think, sits quite neatly. It's a difficult one, I think, for traditionalists to swallow because it could be very naff.
Silverton: And I've been saying... Yes. And I can imagine people saying you just can't touch Sherlock Holmes, you know, put it in the modern day, it just won't work.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Silverton: And I actually confess, I was one of those last night who sat down to watch it...
Cumberbatch: Me too, before I read the scripts.
Silverton: Were you?
Cumberbatch (laughs): Yeah, completely.
Silverton: Were you thinking, "Gosh, I can't do this."
Cumberbatch: Oh, completely, I just... It's very easy, I think, to just... to try and, uh, reinvigorate something with a very tacked-on idea of modernity, whether it just be multimedia technology or a sort of tongue-in-cheek reference to something that's now, I don't know, taken on a new guise, but...
Silverton: Well, let's take a look and give people a sense of what we're talking about.
Cumberbatch: Okay, yeah. Let's talk about that.
Silverton: This is your very first meeting with, uh... with Watson.
Cumberbatch: Okay, okay.
Sherlock: I play the violin when I’m thinking. Sometimes I don’t talk for days on end. Would that bother you? Potential flatmates should know the worst about each other.
John: Oh, you ... you told him about me?
Mike Stamford: Not a word.
John: Then who said anything about flatmates?
Sherlock: I did. Told Mike this morning that I must be a difficult man to find a flatmate for. Now here he is just after lunch with an old friend, clearly just home from military service in Afghanistan. Wasn’t that difficult a leap.
John: How did you know about Afghanistan?
Sherlock: Got my eye on a nice little place in central London. Together we ought to be able to afford it. We’ll meet there tomorrow evening; seven o’clock. Sorry – gotta dash. I think I left my riding crop in the mortuary.
John: Is that it?
Sherlock: Is that what?
John: We’ve only just met and we’re gonna go and look at a flat?
Sherlock: Problem?
John: We don’t know a thing about each other; I don’t know where we’re meeting; I don’t even know your name.
Sherlock: I know you’re an Army doctor and you’ve been invalided home from Afghanistan. I know you’ve got a brother who’s worried about you but you won’t go to him for help because you don’t approve of him – possibly because he’s an alcoholic; more likely because he recently walked out on his wife. And I know that your therapist thinks your limp’s psychosomatic – quite correctly, I’m afraid. That’s enough to be going on with, don’t you think?
Sherlock: The name’s Sherlock Holmes and the address is two two one B Baker Street. Afternoon.
Mike Stamford: Yeah. He’s always like that.
Stayt: That is, uh... And we won't go into too much detail, but you're pretty much right, aren't you? I mean, he is annoyingly...
Cumberbatch: Yes... Irritatingly... But, I mean, he is fallible. He is fallible. It's not a complete science deduction. It is, pretty much, in his hands, but... There are red herrings. There are dead ends. But the brilliant thing he still can do, in the 21 st century, with all the multimedia and forensic science he has at his availability... At his availability! At his hands, at his beck and call... Is to turn that into a coherent narrative, to understand who, why, what, when, and he does that so fantastically brilliantly, and sometimes he gets it wrong, but...
Silverton: And it's an illustration of how...If just by being, purely by being observant, that you can pick up on...
Cumberbatch: He's great.
Silverton: If just by being, purely by being observant, that you can pick up on...
Cumberbatch: Yes, it's an achievable... It's an achievable power. It's not a superpower. It's...
Silverton: It's... It struck me as sort of a cross between, and we mentioned forensic science, sort of a CSI, it's got a really pacey feel...
Cumberbatch: Mmm. Yeah.
Silverton: The scripting's very fast and very... There's a lot of wit in there.
Cumberbatch: Yes, it's quite...
Silverton: It's kind of Like an adult Doctor Who. But then, some of the writers have actually also written for Doctor Who.
Cumberbatch: Well, Steve and Mark... Both Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss do both write for Doctor Who, but, um... I don't think there's that much of a crossover, but stylistically, you have a maverick. You have an outsider.
Silverton: Yeah.
Cumberbatch: You have someone who's voluble, who's incredibly smart and fast-thinking, and adept at thinking on his feet, and someone who leaps into action and leaves people going, "Wait! Hang on!" And, you know, catching up like the audience does, but... I think what's smart about this as well is that there are moments, without spoiling too much, where the audience is let into the thinking of Holmes, which is quite a new dynamic, I think, in any TV drama. You have these moments not just with sort of, screen technology, which is often a cutaway to a phone or a computer where the words actually appear rather than actually being on the screen.
Stayt: Now that's worth explaining, isn't it, because I thought that was a very...
Silverton: Yes.
Stayt: ... I've not seen it before.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Stayt: Just to explain, so, I think filmmakers have been struggling with the idea of, how do you make texting interesting...
Cumberbatch: Yeah, yeah. ...
Stayt: ... in a visual sense. What you do in this film, is that you... You're receiving the texts and they appear as subtitles.
Cumberbatch: Yeah.
Stayt: And so you know what the actor's looking at.
Cumberbatch: Exactly, exactly.
Stayt: It's so simple. I don't know why...
Cumberbatch: And yet very, very, very effective. I know, I know. I think maybe because people think it's some kind of intrusion on the actual physical space of what the camera's looking at, but I... You know, a word or two floating up, it's brilliant. It just works.
Stayt: It comes like a thought bubble, really.
Silverton: Yeah.
Cumberbatch: Yes, it does a bit.
Silverton: You've also got a lovely landlady that I think we should introduce very quickly, if we've got time.
Cumberbatch: Oh, please. The lovely Una Stubbs.
Silverton: The landlady at 221 B Baker Street, played by Una Stubbs. And we get to see what a mess you live in. (Cumberbatch laughs)
John: Well, this could be very nice. Very nice indeed.
Sherlock: Yes. Yes, I think so. My thoughts precisely. So I went straight ahead and moved in.
John: Soon as we get all this rubbish cleaned out... Oh. So this is all ...
Sherlock: Well, obviously I can, um, straighten things up a bit.
John: That’s a skull.
Sherlock: Friend of mine. When I say ‘friend’ ...
Mrs. Hudson: What do you think, then, Doctor Watson? There’s another bedroom upstairs if you’ll be needing two bedrooms.
John: Of course we’ll be needing two.
Mrs. Hudson: Oh, don’t worry; there’s all sorts round here. Mrs Turner next door’s got married ones. Oh, Sherlock. The mess you’ve made.
Stayt: I bet it was hard to keep a straight face filming that, wasn't it? (Silverton and Cumberbatch laugh)
Cumberbatch: This stuff is fantastic. Holmes's default mode is quite a straight face. It's rare that he smiles without intent. But yeah, no, she's wonderful. She's just delightful. She's very, very funny.
Stayt: Like I was saying that... Sorry, you were saying a second ago about how many actors have taken on the role of Sherlock. You were saying that it was... Is it 200?
Cumberbatch: It's a huge number. If you take into the international contingent as well, it's... I think it is well into the 200s. I think it's possibly... This might be in the Guinness Book of Records, I'm not sure, and I should know this, playing a fact-meister that Holmes is. Um, I think he is the most-played literary fictional character. Um, I mean for me, one of the scariest things, as far as inheriting any of that and playing such an iconic role was thinking about Rathbone and Brett. To me, they are the two supreme English Holmes and always will be. So that was yet another appeal with escaping that shadow slightly, because of not having a deerstalker, a bowler hat, or a cape or pipe in sight, that there was... We were moving out of the Victorian smog of it into something which I could have some kind of a new identity with.
Silverton: Mmm.
Cumberbatch: Um, and also it's younger and also it's when they first meet and that's very rarely been done.
Silverton: Yes.
Cumberbatch: And it's a great place to start the story, where it originally started, in Study in Scarlet.
Silverton: That's fantastic.
Cumberbatch: Ours is called "A Study in Pink."
Silverton: Well...
Stayt: You get a scarf and a long coat.
Cumberbatch: Oh yes, you have to come up with some kind of a silhouette.
Silverton: There's some things that still remain. Yeah. It's so lovely to see you. Thank you so much...
Cumberbatch: It's an absolute pleasure.
Stayt: I know you're a little bit dicky on the throat.
Cumberbatch: A little bit dicky on the throat, yeah.
Stayt: Thank you.
Silverton: So one not to miss, then. Sherlock on BBC One, 9:00 on Sunday night.